
Reveals are an important part of storytelling, and they have so many uses! A good reveal can raise tension as the heroes are dumped into an even worse situation than before, or it can be a source of satisfaction as the heroes save the day with a brand-new trick. But some reveals don’t get the job done, instead leaving us wondering if something important was supposed to happen. These failures can only be referred to as underwhelming, and they’re so common that it took me only half an hour to come up with five examples.
Spoiler Notice: Hawkeye, Star Trek: Discovery, Red Sister, and The Order of the Stick
1. Underpowered Mob Boss: Hawkeye

For the first five episodes of this Disney+ show, the writers heavily hint that there’s a secret villain directing the Tracksuit Mafia from behind the scenes. This is a good play because, let’s face it, the Tracksuit Mafia is a joke, more comic relief than actual threat. Their leader Maya is good at martial arts and notably wears a leather jacket rather than a tracksuit, but that’s still not enough to threaten an Avenger like Clint Barton. With his trusty bow and techno-arrows, Clint has faced down alien invasions and hordes of killer robots, to say nothing of Thanos himself.
Fortunately, the show’s tension is largely maintained by the many hints of someone more powerful behind the scenes, along with a less cartoonish approach to violence than the MCU usually takes.* Maya refers to how her “uncle” will be displeased, while Clint talks about an unnamed “big guy” whom he’s worried about angering. Then, in episode five, the bad guys are joined by Yelena, a Black Widow assassin with a personal grudge against Clint. Whoever this uncle/big guy is, he must be the real deal if he can swing something like that.
Finally the big reveal comes and… it’s Kingpin, the one from Netflix’s Daredevil, still played by Vincent D’Onofrio and everything. While it’s neat that the Netflix Marvel shows are being integrated into the MCU, this reveal doesn’t do anything to raise tension. I’ve critiqued Kingpin’s portrayal in Daredevil several times, but that’s not important because even if you think everything in that show worked perfectly, Kingpin is still just a guy whose biggest ambition is to gentrify a neighborhood in Manhattan.*
We’re left back at square one. Despite not having any powers, Clint is an Avenger and has faced Avengers-level threats. There’s the ever-present question of why he doesn’t call one of his superpowered buddies for help,* but putting that aside, this is all just way below his pay grade. As far as we know, Kingpin is just a human who works out and is pretty good at martial arts. Granted, when the heroes actually fight him, he’s inexplicably immune to arrows, but that doesn’t help the reveal.
Worse, Hawkeye already has two villains with martial arts powers: Maya and Yelena. Adding a third barely changes the situation. At least Yelena also has some super-spy training to go along with her martial arts. Kingpin doesn’t even have that. Of course, the real reason for adding Kingpin is so the heroes still have someone to fight after Maya and Yelena switch sides, leaving us with the MCU’s most contractually obligated reveal.
2. Emergency Backup Targaryen: A Dance With Dragons

In the fifth* Song of Ice and Fire book, Tyrion meets up with a mercenary named Griff who has a son, creatively named Young Griff. These two seem like a couple of throwaway side characters until Tyrion does a bit of sleuthing and figures out that Young Griff is actually Aegon Targaryen, son of Rhaegar and grandson of Aerys II, the last Targaryen king. Before this point, it had been widely established that baby Aegon was killed when the Targaryens were overthrown, but surprise! He was switched out with another baby at the last moment.
This reveal is pretty contrived, largely because George R. R. Martin has already used the plot device of children supposedly dying when it was actually only a body double who died. Readers are very sensitive to any trope that lets characters cheat death, so using the same one twice is passé. Nor did the reveal have much – if any – foreshadowing, so it comes out of nowhere. This reveal is also very difficult to justify from an in-character perspective. We’re supposed to believe that Illyrio had a pliable infant with a perfect claim on the Iron Throne, but instead he went with the obviously unstable and more distant Viserys as his primary candidate? Sorry, I don’t buy it.
But if this reveal is so contrived, why did Martin write it? Usually this kind of flopped reveal happens after an author overpromises, but other than Jon Snow’s mysterious parentage, Martin never even hinted that other Targaryens had survived. As you may have guessed, I do have a hypothesis.
By the time of Feast for Crows and Dance With Dragons, two books that cover largely the same span of time, A Song of Ice and Fire’s political conflict has stagnated. Most of the major players are dead, and of those still living, most are stuck in their own personal quagmire, increasingly siloed off from each other. Daenerys is in Meereen, navigating a never-ending stream of local problems. Stannis and Jon are on the Wall, pinned down by Wildlings and Others.* Sansa is caught up in Littlefinger’s convoluted machinations at the Eyrie. The only factions with any momentum are the Ironborn and Dorne, neither of which have much development even after such a long series.
In that situation, I can understand why Martin would want to introduce something big so he could shake up the status quo. Adding another claimant to the throne might have been a way to do that, but I doubt Aegon is the character for the job. He doesn’t appear to have any real support in Westeros, and he’d need a lot if his purpose was to force the other characters out of their individual plotlines and back into a bigger conflict like the previous books had. At most, he might be able to get Dorne on his side, since they already tried making an alliance with Daenerys and it ended with their prince getting barbecued.
That’s just my best guess though. For all I know, Martin introduced Aegon as a way to throw fans off the scent of Jon being a secret Targaryen, something that was still technically unconfirmed when Dance With Dragons came out. Or maybe I’m assigning too much intention to the whole thing, and this reveal is as random as it is underwhelming.
3. A Contrived Power Source: Discovery

Star Trek: Discovery’s fourth season is, for the most part, very good. It even sticks the landing in its finale, something I haven’t been able to say about live-action Trek for a long time. However, it does have one heck of an underwhelming reveal.
You see, this season’s big threat is the Dark Matter Anomaly, which they shorten to DMA. Despite a fairly generic name, the DMA itself is pretty interesting. It’s effectively a black hole that teleports around the galaxy, causing catastrophic damage to any nearby ships or planets. Scans quickly reveal that the DMA has an artificial power source, which raises a big question: What is it for? While very destructive, it doesn’t make much sense as a weapon, since it isn’t targeting anything. The damage it causes appears to be a side effect. This question runs over several episodes as our heroes also investigate who built the DMA and how to stop it.
Then, in the eighth episode, Captain Burnham figures it out. The DMA is actually an advanced piece of mining tech for hoovering up boronite! Wait, how did she guess that? And what the heck is boronite? To answer the first question, it largely comes to her out of the blue. She learns that the DMA’s creators have high energy needs and then makes the leap that they’re using the DMA for mining purposes. It’s not the most unreasonable guess I’ve heard, but since nothing about the DMA indicates mining, it’s quite a leap.
As for the supposed element boronite, that’s a little more complicated. At first, it sounds like a case of classic Star Trek technobabble. But it’s actually an incredibly deep cut reference to the Voyager episode The Omega Directive, where the characters offhandedly mention that boronite is required to synthesize the Omega molecule, a limitless source of energy. If you happen to know that reference, then Burnham’s leap of logic sounds more reasonable. If you don’t, then you’ll probably be confused.
I’m confident in guessing that most of Discovery’s viewers either didn’t remember this obscure bit of trivia or never watched the original Voyager episode in the first place. For a reference like this to work, it has to make sense whether you get it or not. That way, those who don’t will continue the story as if nothing happened, while those who do will get an extra bit of satisfaction. Discovery’s writers forgot that critical rule, and so one of their overarching mysteries sputtered out in a bit of head-scratching jargon.
4. Nun of Your Business: Red Sister

This 2017 fantasy* novel opens with a prologue in which an assassin nun named Sister Thorn is fighting an army of mercenaries hired by someone named Lano Tacsis. After some fighting, we cut to chapter one, and Sister Thorn is nowhere to be seen. Instead, our protagonist is Nona, and she’s just getting started at assassin nun school. There is a major bad guy named Tacsis, but he has a different first name, so it’s impossible to tell if the prologue was a flashback, a flashforward, or happening concurrently somewhere else.
At first, this seems like a standard case of a disconnected prologue. Many authors think that if they open with an unrelated action scene, it justifies the real opening chapters being as slow as they like, and oh boy are Red Sister’s opening chapters slow. Nona learns how to fight for a few chapters, but there’s no significant tension. The only major conflict is handled by the abbess rather than by Nona herself, so we’re left to watch as the protagonist meanders through lessons and eventually makes a friend named Ara. Lano Tacsis does eventually appear as a minor antagonist, but it’s impossible to tell how his actions in the present are relevant to the prologue.
Finally, over 200 pages after the prologue, Nona and Ara get to pick new names for themselves, and Ara announces she’ll be known as Sister Thorn. The chapter dramatically ends there like this is a big reveal, when most readers will have forgotten that name entirely. Fortunately, the book helpfully reminds us by cutting back to the prologue fight, which we can now deduce is a flashforward in which an adult Ara is fighting for her life. And then to add an extra twist, Ara is stabbed in the back by someone she knows. It could be Nona, but the text keeps it deliberately vague.
The Sister Thorn reveal falls flat for the same reason all disconnected prologues do: it’s too disconnected! Learning that Ara will one day be in a fight doesn’t change anything that’s happening in the actual story, which is still taken up with training, training, and more training. It’s not even about the main character, but her friend from assassin nun school. Nona is the one we’ve been building attachment to for the last 200 pages, not Ara.
Speaking of 200 pages, that’s too long to wait for this kind of reveal. For a reveal to work, readers need to understand what’s being revealed. A lot of readers won’t even remember who Sister Thorn is, and switching back to her prologue fight just feels like justifying something after the fact. And then the author tries to raise suspense with Ara getting backstabbed, but it falls even flatter. That moment is clearly vague on purpose, so it could easily not be Nona, or it could be some kind of elaborate trick to save Ara’s life. We don’t have nearly enough context to judge if we should be worried or not.
5. A Time-Wasting Halfling: OotS

For this last entry, we have a classic webcomic. The Order of the Stick started way back in 2003, and its long-running story appears to be finally nearing its conclusion, as the major players align themselves for a battle to determine the fate of all existence. It’s come a long way from the days of weapon proficiency jokes.
As our heroes rush to stop the lich Xykon from taking over the world, a new enemy emerges, attacking Team Good’s allies and generally being a nuisance. This enemy is invisible when they first enter the story, building a mystery about who they are and how their identity will change the story. Are they working with Xykon, or do they have some third agenda that will shake up the entire conflict?
The comic spends quite some time chasing down other plots, but finally our heroes are ready to take on this mysterious enemy. The big reveal: she’s a halfling named Serini, the last survivor of an old adventuring group that tried and failed to stop Xykon back in the day. Hmm. That’s potentially interesting, but why is she attacking Team Good? It’s because she’s worried that in fighting Xykon, they’ll break an important artifact that will, in turn, destroy the world. Instead, she wants them to let the lich win.
Oh boy. This immediately casts Serini in a bad light, since we know the good guys aren’t going to destroy the artifact in question. They already talked about it. This should be a simple misunderstanding, but Serini refuses to believe them and keeps insisting on letting the villain win. Her mystique quickly evaporates, replaced only by annoyance, as she’s just being unreasonably stubborn.
Worse, the entire arc of defeating Serini now feels pointless. Discovering her identity didn’t change anything about the main conflict, nor have the heroes had to reconsider their approach. There’s not even any potential for Serini to become an ally, since the heroes already have plenty of those and Serini doesn’t bring anything new to the table.* We can’t even say that this arc reduced how much time the heroes had to defeat Xykon, since the bad guys seem to have been on pause the whole time.
It’s still possible that Serini will turn out to have some previously unknown clue or magic item that helps win the day against Xykon, as the arc isn’t quite over yet.* That might be better than nothing, but it would also be pretty contrived. So far, it’s seemed like the heroes have everything they need to defeat the lich, and it’s hard to imagine what Serini could offer that wouldn’t feel like a retcon. She’s little more than a speed bump in the story’s final chapter, and it would have saved a lot of frustration if we’d just skipped this side arc.
The specifics of an underwhelming reveal may change, but the core problem is almost always the same: the reveal doesn’t change the story very much. A big reveal is supposed to shake things up, to make the characters reexamine their approach. If that doesn’t happen, then audiences are left wondering what the point was.
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Hehe… Nun of your business. I saw what you did there.
A character name I’ve never had occasion to use, but which has stuck with me, is Sister Superposition: Nun of the Above.
On number 5: We might actually find out why the Order of the Scribble fell apart, but otherwise Serini showing up wasn’t that surprising.
Its also been 38 strips since we’ve seen Team Evil…
OotS is my favorite all-time webcomic. One of my favorite all-time things on the web
Highly recommended, especially (but not exclusively) for anyone interested in Dungeons & Dragons. Good humor, interesting and developing characters, epic story, and actual familiarity w/ and respect for D & D
And it has had some great reveals in previous strips
However, I am basically forced to agree here. We spend way too much time on Serini, particularly at, as you put it, the “somewhat sedate update pace”, though it might read better in the collected edition
Anyway, people, don’t let this put you off. Read Order of the Stick
I’m also a big OotS fan, been reading it since day 1 in 2003. Just not a fan of this weird little side adventure.
Serini knows where the gate is. Team Evil does not. The Order does not.
She knows the dense around the gate. She built them.
She has a moral argument against the OOts: they’re to her best information incompetent and represent a continuation of the unjust status quo. Team Evil doesn’t: Redcloak has shown he’s still stuck in a short sighted obsession for revenge.
Not saying her arc is Rich’s best work, but it’s not completely without merit
Very good points! I have found more and more problems with the MCU approach to “storytelling” (to moneymaking?). Carbon copy plots, over-reliance on the “hero’s” journey. Meh reveals…
Game of Thrones: could it be that the weight of the story is causing it to crumble? Did GRRM try too hard? Is he overwhelmed?
Finally, I wonder if infants are viable rather than pliable, although I do notice that my grandchildren are much more pliable than I am. Sigh.
I think one big problem with the MCU is their output – they do so many movies a year, how are they going to make every of them special in its own way? They simply paste the three acts on each story and make them all more or less interchangeable. It’s sad, but that is how things are going…
I interpret Illyrio’s support of viserys as being a feint: he wasnt expecting the eggs to hatch, so he wasn’t expecting Viserys to win, so sending him there with the Dothraki may have been a convenient way to cause chaos in Westeros and get Viserys killed (Robert Baratheon WILDLY overestimates the size of the Dothraki army, so he would be over prepared, and we know that Varys is in league with Aegon and Illyrio from the Book 5 epilogue). Then Illyrio could send in Aegon to mop up with an actually useful army (sellswords who know something about westeros and siege warfare) and topple the weakened Baratheons. This is based largely on some conversations in Book 1. It’s also possible that Aegon is fake and the real baby DID die because Daenerys has a vision of crowds cheering a false dragon in book 2, and so thematically (in a hypothetical future book) you’d have Daenerys killing who everyone believes is the real heir but she believes isn’t, and everyone believing her self-interested and hypocritical for it. (Which is what she tried to do with Jon in the show.)
… But of course in a series that has been going on for SO long there’s no way for readers to remember throwaway conversations and hallucinations from books 1 and 2, so admittedly this theory does sound like a completely unhinged conspiracy theory, and we are unlikely to ever see the payoff of Aegon.
Young Griff also falls into the “mediocre white boy” category of characters, to be honest.
Because problematic as she is, Dany had to EARN what she has. Young Griff didn’t.
I believe that’s the point of Young Griff’s character. He’s the tropey version of Jon and Daenerys (secret Targaryen prince/exiled conqueror returned). And the Westerosi public in-universe would see him as a hero precisely because of that, whereas the real heroes are the actually accomplished* Jon and Daenerys.
* notwithstanding the feudalism and the conquering.
Darn it. I just went and briefly caught up with Order of the Stick, and I’d been so good at resisting the temptation for months.
As a matter of interest, any ideas on how long the final arc will actually be [in terms of years]?
I’m not sure exactly how long it’ll end up being either, but the other six parts were 121, 180, 183, 188, 274, and 243 strips long, respectively, with the final part so far coming to 66 strips. Based on that, it seems like there’ll be about 150-200 strips more before the end.
Looking at the publication schedule, there are about 2-3 strips released per month; after doing some quick math, that means we could be looking at up to 4-8 more years of Order of the Stick before it ends.
Wow, that may be quick math for you, but my math skills have a habit of wandering into alternate dimensions, so many thanks for figuring all of that out so fast.
4-8 more years. That’s either not so bad, or makes me extremely impatient just thinking about it.
Top three favourite characters, anyone? MIne’s V, the Monster In The Darkness, and Mr. Scruffy.
My personal faves are Blackwing, V, and the Monster in the Darkness, in that order, so not too far off.
“Young Griff”‘s entrance into Westeros-world poses a lot of problems for storytelling, too. I can imagine no way that even a talented storyteller like Martin could successfully land the plane with all the gear intact, so to speak. I just can’t think of a satisfying way that Griff’s plot gets wrapped up in two books.
Maybe there’s a perfectly sound explanation for what’s going on between Varys, Illyrion, and Aegon. Maybe Aegon is a fake. Maybe Viserys was just supposed to soften Westeros up for Aegon’s invasion. Unfortunately, it’s impossible to know until when/if Winds of Winter comes out.
Unrelated, but I think Jon’s final chapter in Dance is my favorite chapter in a fantasy story ever.
I think you’re on the right track with Varys intending the Dothraki to soften up Westeros, to create a crisis for his “perfect prince” to save the realm. And Oren is, as usual, wrong about this series. Aegon was foreshadowed as early as aCoK, when Daenerys sees a fake dragon being cheered on by crowds. Later, she is given a prophecy to “beware the mummer’s dragon” and when discussing the prophecy, the term ‘mummer’s dragon’ is described in such a way. There are also hints that Aegon is not who they claim he is. Illyrio is assessed by both PoV houseguests in the series as a man lacking in sentiment who does nothing without gain for himself, and as Tyrion notes, there is no visible motive for him to partake in this scheme. Except he has a picture of his dead wife with Targaryen-like hair, who Illyrio thinks looks very much like Dany, and could very well have given birth to a son that could pass for a Targaryen. Tyrion finds expensive boy’s clothing in Illyrio’s mansion that is later repurposed for his own use. And Illyrio is visibly sad about not getting to see Aegon before their departure, as well as including thoughtful gifts for him.
It’s very likely that rather than a real Targaryen prince, Aegon is Illyrio’s son by his wife Serra, from whom he inherited Targaryen-like coloration. This scheme lets Illyrio put his son on the throne of a large nation, and it still works with Varys’ agenda, because he is trying to create an ideal ruler, and with his hatred of magic, a king who is not of the Targaryens’ magic bloodline would not exactly be a deal-breaker.
There is also the possibility that Aegon is a Blackfyre, hence the willingness of the Golden Company to sign on with the scheme in spite of the hit to their track record of never breaking a contract.
Kingpin has secretly been stabbing himself with increasingly pointy arrows over the years to build up a resistance like in The Princess Bride
Lololol, Wesley would be proud.
As a longtime OotS fan, it makes me very happy to see it getting covered in Mythcreants!
Me. too
Though I would like to have seen a post talking about all the good stuff in there…
That would be a pretty long post though?
It seems a bit early to say that defeating Serini was pointless, since that arc’s not over. If nothing else, she should be able to tell us why the Order of the Scribble fell apart, and I have a feeling that will be important. Possibly more important than what Thor showed and told Durkon in the astral plane.
Also, it isn’t really accurate to describe the Order of the Scribble as “an old adventuring group that tried and failed to stop Xykon back in the day”. Two-thirds of them did fight Xykon. Individually, after the group split up. The Order of the Scribble had been dealing with the rifts and making the gates.
Yes! I second both of these points regarding number 5. Judge an arc AFTER it finished arcing, Oren! This is like barging into an operating room and screaming at the surgeon for cutting the patient. They’re not doing it for funsies, they’re doing it to save the patient’s life.
The Giant in the Playground (Rich Burlew) has written so many wonderful arcs and stories in The Order of the Stick and done so with wonderful humor, wit and even pathos (Wrecan, Gygax, Anderson, hell even Tsukiko made me cry in the end) that it feels disrespectful to the point of annoyance that you wouldn’t extend him a well-earned benefit of the doubt, let alone the courtesy of finishing his work before criticising it.
I feel that Young Griff is a double reversal when it turns out is a random child they “trained” to be Aegon. The reveal of a lost Targaryen would shake up Westeros (now that noone thinks about Daenerys). I was greatly disappointed by the last book. I didn’t even finished the TV show despite it being my favorite saga by then. I think it all crashed and burned, and i don’t think House of the Dragon would help.
The author is missing the point with Aegon, that he’s SUPPOSED to be underwhelming. GRRM is deconstructing fantasy tropes with his series, and he has Jon Snow & Daenerys Targaryen as two examples of the hidden or exiled royalty, emerging to save the day or reclaim the throne. But Aegon is a much more obvious and common example of the trope. Jon & Dany show how rough that can be on the prince(ss) in exile or posing as a regular kid and the actual dangers such a prince(ss) would face, and they have struggles and hardships to overcome. Aegon, by contrast, is going through the motions of a struggle. He was raised in a bubble, and the same people who would have seen Dany and Jon dead, had no idea Aegon was alive. Aegon was almost perfectly raised, with tutors and bodyguards and a medically trained person on hand.
By introducing this character, Martin is showing exactly how “Underwhelming” these figures are, and there is plenty of foreshadowing to suggest he’s going to be a big hit in Westeros, because he plays to all the popular expectations, that people are going to embrace him as a hidden exiled prince, to steal the thunder of the real thing, and it’s going to cause problems for the real princes, Dany & Jon.
I can’t quite agree about Serini. Her willingness to opose the heroes is rather justified, considering their track record. So far, they have been involved in destruction of every gate, save for the one Serini is guarding. True, it wasn’t exactly all their fault – Miko deserves to be blamed for at least one.
But the point was that whenever the Order gets involved, gates are destroyed. And that means the world is closer and closer to being unmade and reset. Serini doesn’t want that, claiming it’s nothing other than a tantrum – instead of losing, the gods would rather flip the table and crush all the living pawns. She would rather have Xykon conquer the world, since he at least could be opposed and overthrown.
The point is, the final gate breaking means game over for everyone. And the fact that the team doesn’t want to destroy it is irrelevant. They can’t promise that for some reason, one of them won’t choose to do it due to receiving some new information. Or a third party intevening. Or perhaps just on accident, with a reflected spell or something. With their track record, Serini decided that the gamble was to risky to take.